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GOD'S DISCIPLINE MAKES DISCIPLES!--"The Truth Revolution"--Part 6 11/79 DO 2460
1. WELL, PTL! TYL! THIS IS IN ANSWER TO DON'S TAPE OF CONFESSION & REPENTANCE--WE HOPE. Of course, we don't know what repentance IS until the deeds are done. We hope it's a change of mind, at least. Well, Son, you have repented--at least it sounds like it--& confessed your sins, even though you are still in such a habit of justifying yourself & excusing yourself & blaming it on others. o
2. EVEN IN THIS CONFESSION YOU MAKE REFERENCES TO LIZ AS THOUGH, "WELL, SHE WAS TO BLAME & DESERVED IT, BUT I WAS WRONG TOO," etc. It's a habit of years & it's going to be hard to get out of that & several other bad habits which you have had for some years now. But as you have said & as the Lord has shown us, this is your last chance. If you don't make it here, then you're through as far as we're concerned & your work here with us.
3. GOD IS CERTAINLY MERCIFUL! I'm afraid if I had known of your faults beforehand, I wouldn't have been so merciful! We certainly wouldn't have brought you folks & your big family here to work with us unless we had thought you were very talented & useful & going to be a big help to the work. We certainly can't carry on much longer this way, spending most of our time dealing with your problems.
4. SO I'M GOING TO LAY DOWN A FEW RULES FOR YOU, DON, & MAYBE SOME FOR LIZ TOO. We already have & some of them have been passed on to you, but if you want to stay here & work with us & stay with the Family, you'll have to abide by them. I've often told people, they haven't reached the TOP when they get here, they've reached the BOTTOM, & if they don't make it here when they have their last chance at the very end of the rope, they usually don't make it at all!
5. GOD'S GIVING THEM THEIR LAST CHANCE, HIS GREATEST MERCY & GREATEST OPPORTUNITY, & frequently, if they don't make it with us, then they just don't make it even with the Family or with the Lord, & they backslide completely! A few people have come & been trained with us & gone on to other even higher fields of service because they did well & they just got some training under us & went on to serve the Lord better than ever. So just because they are no longer with us doesn't mean that they all failed or washed out or fluked out.
6. SO WHETHER THIS PERIOD OF TRAINING HERE WITH US IS TEMPORARY OR WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO REMAIN AWHILE, REMAINS TO BE SEEN. It remains to be seen in your reaction to these restrictions & rules we're going to lay down for you & how you take it & whether you are willing to follow them or not. Because I gather, Son, that you have been pretty spoiled somehow, certainly spoiled by those two women, that's for sure!
7. AS I TOLD SOMEBODY TODAY, IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN GOD ALMOST SPOILED YOU, He let you get away with it for years, but I think even God's fed-up! And I know I'M just about fed-up, & if you hadn't pulled through with a good honest confession & shown some signs of repentance, you would be through now!
8. THIS REALLY IS NOT A VERY GOOD PLACE FOR A BIG FAMILY, but we took you since you no longer had your former job. We considered that you are both very valuable folks with lots of needed talents & experience, & you passed a lot of tests that the Lord & we put you through, & apparently God in His mercy allowed us to bring you here to get some more training & pass some more tests & try to get you straightened out, if He can, with our help.--Because if we had known your severe problems before you came, you wouldn't be here now!
9. I MUST SAY THAT I DID TELL MARIA I WAS A BIT LEERY OF HAVING ANOTHER SAGITTARIAN AROUND, because so many of them have so much pride & are such men-pleasers & so know-it-all, smart-alecks, mostly big SHOW & not much GO! They are usually skyrockets, a flash in the pan, that just looks great for a little while, then you turn around & they're gone!
10. MOST SAGITTARIANS I'VE KNOWN SEEM TO BE THAT WAY, INCLUDING MY OWN BROTHER! He was handsome, intelligent, had a brilliant education, a gorgeous voice, good looks, everything! He had good jobs, tremendous salaries, but he just never could make it because he was always more concerned about what PEOPLE thought than about what GOD thought!
11. HE WAS A MAN-PLEASER & MORE INTERESTED IN SERVING MAN THAN GOD! He squandered his money trying to buy friends with lavish, expensive parties & lavish gifts & living high above his income to show off & to be popular. Oh, how he loved popularity &, oh my, how popular he was!--Until he flubbed out & fluked out time & again & lost all his friends, even lost his wife & his children & his home & his car & his business & his job & his money & he went totally bankrupt!--All through trying to be such a big show-off & a man-pleaser & be popular! He just loved the praise of men & was much more interested in being popular with Man than he was in being popular with God!
12. PEOPLE LIKE THAT REALLY HAVE A TOUGH TIME MAKING IT because they love popularity & the praise of Man & glory & glamour & all that so much, they just almost need to be worshipped or they're not happy!
13. THAT'S BEEN YOUR PROBLEM, SON, & IT'S CAUSED YOU NO END OF GRIEF! It's almost cost you your wife & your family & your sanity & your health, & we're just not going to let it cost any more if we can help it! It's caused us enough trouble & grief & problems already, Lord help us! But we're going to try one last chance to salvage you & use you if we can.
14. I'M LAYING DOWN SOME VERY STRICT CONDITIONS ON IT & you've already heard some of the rules, that you are to work full-time, put in a good eight hours a day for the Lord & His work, at least working on your own trailer & your own car. And Liz is to be separated from you all day long--you hardly even deserve that much considering the way you've treated her.
15. YOU KNEW WHAT THE RULES WERE, YOU KNEW THAT ANYBODY THAT USED VIOLENCE WITH HIS MATE WAS TO BE THROWN OUT OF THE FAMILY IMMEDIATELY, at least out of the Home, & not be allowed back in until he fully repents & shows "works meet for repentance," & vows never to do it again. And I think I laid down the rules in long-ago Letters that if such a man ever started using violence again, that's it! Out he goes! So that's going to be the rule for you, too, Son.
16. SO LIZ IS TO COME & PUT IN A GOOD DAY'S WORK AT THE HOUSE. You're going to be separated from her all day long, just like you would be in the System if you had a job. But you have the blessing of your little family & your children & your other wife, which most men don't have, & to be working at home on your own home & your own car. And if for any reason Liz should have to stay overnight at the house at any time, you can just be thankful she ever gets to come home ANY night, & isn't separated from you PERMANENTLY.
17. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY MORE MURMURS OR COMPLAINTS OR GRIPES OR BEEFS OR HAVE YOU OBJECTING TO ANY OF THESE DISCIPLINARY MEASURES because you are being spanked & under discipline & chastened & chastised for your very vicious sins that have caused you & your family & OUR family & the LORD a lot of trouble! We're just not going to put up with it any more, period! This is your last chance, you either straighten out, or out you go, & you'll be on your own & have to solve your own problems.
18. AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY, I HOPE YOU MAKE IT, because I know if people don't make it, they usually go back so far that they are a mess & no good to anybody.--In fact, even worse, sometimes they are a HINDRANCE & a detriment & a jinx to everybody, & out of fellowship with God & the Family, out of the Will of God.
19. SO HONESTLY, I KNOW ALL OF US HOPE THAT YOU WILL MAKE IT, but you are going to have to make it according to these rules. We've laid down some of those rules already, as far as your working hours & your working places & your jobs. We're going to see to it that you are kept busy.
20. THAT'S WHAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY CAME HERE FOR--not to cause us a lot of problems & waste a lot of our time! We have enough to do without having to spend any more time on problem cases! So you are not going to be a problem any more, I can promise you that, because you are either going to straighten out & do well & make it, or you're going to be out where you won't cause us any problems!
21. YOU CAN BE THANKFUL THAT LIZ IS WILLING TO COME HOME AT NIGHT TO YOU AT ALL, without any more of this slavery business with you as her tyrant & she as your slave. "There is no male or female in Christ Jesus."--Gal.3:28. You're equal before God, & she has just as much rights as you have. You should be working together in love & cooperation & helpfulness as helpmeets to each other & your family, & to our family & the Lord's Work & others. And that's the way it's going to be, or it's NOT going to be!
22. YOU'RE NOT TO TOUCH ANOTHER DROP OF LIQUOR, WINE OR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE OF ANY KIND, ANY FURTHER FROM NOW ON, PERIOD! And I want to warn you that if you do, it is your last drop with us! Because obviously you can't be trusted with it. Your insane jealousy & your violent temper are dangerous & alcohol obviously fuels the fire & makes you even worse.
23. LIZ & JILL, I WANT YOU TO REPORT TO US IF HE TOUCHES ONE DROP OF AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, if he comes back from town even with the SMELL of alcohol on his breath! I want you to report it to us immediately or YOU are breaking the rules & are just as guilty as he is! And if you GIRLS don't keep these rules, YOU'RE going to be out!--Because then you are in cahoots with his deviltry & you're protecting & covering for him & you're lying to us because you're not reporting it, & you're just as guilty as he is!
24. THE SAME GOES FOR HIS TEMPER TANTRUMS, GIRLS! I want you to report to us immediately if he has any more of these temper tantrums, even if they don't get violent. Even if it is his language that just gets violent or he loses his temper at you & berates you & gives you the tongue-lashings that he's accustomed to. No more of these grillings & third degrees: "What did he say? What did he do? What did you say? What did you do? Who have you been with?"
25. LIZ HAS A RIGHT TO BE WITH ANYBODY SHE WANTS TO BE WITH, so does Jill for that matter, & because of your bad behaviour, you don't even have a right to be with either one of them any more! That's a privilege, & we're just tolerating it for the time being to see if you're going to straighten out!
26. I'D TELL YOU THESE THINGS TO YOUR FACE, SON, but maybe you'd better be thankful I'm not, because I've been tempted to knock your block off considering the problems you've caused & the behaviour you have manifested in the past. When I heard about your beating up your wife, I felt like beating you up myself! I'll tell you, God gets angry sometimes & He beats people up when they deserve it, & you have certainly deserved it. So if I'm giving you a tongue-lashing, you deserve it!
27. NO MORE ALCOHOL! NO MORE TEMPER TANTRUMS! NO MORE JEALOUSY FITS! NO MORE VIOLENCE! No more cruel treatment or mental cruelty or tongue cruelty in relation to your women! You sacrificed your rights, now they have become only PRIVILEGES. You have no right to Liz or Jill any more. You really haven't even any right to your children, considering the way you have behaved. Neither one of the girls have to make love to you if they don't want to. If they don't feel like it & they don't want to, they don't have to. That's no longer your right, you've forfeited it by your behaviour. It's now a privilege for which you had better be very thankful if you get any at all! When you sell your birthright for a mess of violent pottage, then you forfeit it & you no longer have a right to it.--Heb.12:16.
28. YOU'RE ON YOUR LAST LEG, SON, & YOUR LAST CHANCE--AT LEAST AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED. If we're through with you, then maybe God has something to teach you by some very hard lessons & maybe HE can still straighten you out, I don't know, but WE can't spend any more time with it. I hope you mean what you said in your confession tape, it sounded like you're showing signs of genuine repentance. But it will take a miracle of God & more than your desire, it will take your constant yieldedness to the Lord & constant fellowship with God & a constant struggle.
29. I MUST ADMIT, SON, WHEN I HEARD THE FULL STORY OF YOUR PROBLEMS & YOUR SAD TALE, I WAS READY TO THROW YOU OUT THEN, & I didn't feel that you deserved another chance after what you had done. You can only thank God for mercy now, because only God has given me the mercy to give you another chance. I'm a mess myself & we can't stand to have too many more messes around besides me! I'm enough of a problem without having more problem cases around, PTL!
30. THE WHOLE FAMILY AT THE HOUSE WHERE YOU COME TO FELLOWSHIP ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW YOUR PROBLEMS & YOUR CASE & KNOW THAT YOU ARE ON STRICT PROBATION! You were on probation when you came here anyhow, but you are on VERY STRICT probation now because of the behaviour which you have manifested, which began to show itself before there were ever any confessions or anything. This is what brought it all out, your very bad attitude, not wanting anybody else to tell your wife what to do & thinking that you're the only little god that she should have & worship & obey, & objecting to the way we do certain things.
31. LIKE THE OLD SERGEANT TOLD ME IN THE ARMY: "THERE'S A RIGHT WAY & A WRONG WAY, & THERE'S THE ARMY WAY!--And you do it the ARMY way, whether you think it's right or wrong!" That's the way you're going to do it, Son, if you're going to stay here! We have a perfect right to talk to Liz all we want to without you around, & she has a perfect right to talk to us & spill the whole beans!--And thank God she has or you NEVER would have gotten straightened out!
32. MAYBE THAT'LL HELP YOU REALISE THAT YOU ARE NO LONGER HER LITTLE GOD THAT IS TO BE WORSHIPPED & OBEYED! You forfeited those rights of a husband, now it's a privilege, & if she decides she wants to come home at night at all or stay with you at all, then that's a miracle of God & her mercy & love & forgiveness, because she no longer owes it to you.
33. YOU'VE GIVEN HER EVERY REASON TO LEAVE YOU & EVERY EXCUSE FOR IT, & she would certainly be justified in doing so if she wanted to. But she has shown a lot of mercy & a lot of forgiveness & an awful lot of love to put up with you & your violence & your insane temper & your unreasonable jealousy & temper tantrums & fits as long as she has!
34. YOU'RE DANGEROUS, SON, REALLY DANGEROUS! Anybody with a temper like yours is dangerous. I want you to look up Scriptures in the Bible on anger! I can remember one right now, "Keep no company with a furious man!"--Pro.22:24. It says quite a few things in Proverbs about men who are too angry & violent, it warns against even associating with such people!
35. WHENEVER YOU LET THE DEVIL IN LIKE THAT YOU'RE ALMOST DEMON-POSSESSED & DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS, & when this tape is over, I want the Family to lay hands on both of you & ask God to give you the victory, to deliver you from these spirits of lying & deceit & cover-up & hypocrisy & temper & jealousy & violence & all the rest of your horrible vices!
36. ASK THE LORD TO DO A MIRACLE & DELIVER YOU, BECAUSE ONLY GOD CAN DO IT! You're not stronger than the Devil, but GOD is, & you can ask for His help. That's where you made your big mistake, you didn't come clean & confess & ask for help, you just revelled in it, lording it over your women & making them wait on you hand-&-foot like a little god!
37. MY WOMEN WAIT ON ME HAND-&-FOOT, I MUST ADMIT, THEY SPOIL ME, BUT THEY DO IT IN LOVE! I don't force it, I don't beat'm up, I don't sock'm in the face & break their glasses & bruise them & demand that they bow down & kneel down & worship me!
38. I'M SORRY, SON, TO SPEAK SO FORCIBLY, BUT I'M JUST ABOUT FED-UP WITH YOUR PROBLEMS & having brought them here to our doorstep & right into our home, interfering with God's Work! You have beaten your wife down mentally & spiritually & vocally with the attitude that you are the only one that's right & she's always wrong, & I want to tell you that she's got the grace of God & the Spirit of God & seems to have more spirituality than you have or she never would have taken it! But I don't think she's going to be able to take it very much longer if you don't change & straighten out!
39. SO THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOT TO BE! If you can straighten out, get right with the Lord & her & them & us & show real signs of improvement & change, then praise God! We certainly hope you do & we hope you'll prove of usefulness to the Lord & His Work, because that's why we sent for you, because we needed you.
40. AS WE TOLD LIZ, IF YOU DON'T WORK OUT & DON'T RESPOND & DON'T IMPROVE & DECIDE YOU WANT TO GO, THEN YOU ARE WELCOME TO GO! But she's also welcome to stay if she is willing to keep the rules & doesn't want to go with you. So that's up to her. But that's something that you have to know & be forewarned of, that "the way of transgressors is hard, & whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap. Be sure your sins will find you out!"--Pro.13:15; Gal.6:7; Num.32:23. I'm hoping you both make it, really I do, for your sake & the Lord's sake & His Work's sake, because you both have a lot of talent that God can use IF it's yielded to Him & if it's used according to the rules.
41. I HOPE THIS IS THE LAST TAPE I'M GOING TO MAKE ON THE SUBJECT! In fact, if you don't work out, my next word will be, "Chop chop, out he goes, good-bye!" And you can just go back to your little trailer & you will have to worry about what to do & what to do with it! Meanwhile, there's one more point to deal with:
42. WHEN PETER LEFT, THE DIESEL WAS WORKING FINE. It's not the best car in the World--at least THAT one isn't--& it's old & it may be rusted-out, but at least it was RUNNING. It didn't break down until YOU got ahold of it, Son, until you started it in a way that the boys had warned you several times NOT to, until you burned it up! You apparently burned out the ignition system inside the engine, from what the mechanic says, & now it has to be opened up & repaired. You probably melted down some of the wiring & it shorted out & it won't work at all now.
43. AND I THINK ONE REASON GOD LET IT HAPPEN WAS BECAUSE YOU WERE UNGRATEFUL & UNTHANKFUL FOR IT, you murmured about it & complained about it instead of being very thankful that you had a car at all!--Not only the use of it, but God even gave it to you! We GAVE it to you! That car is a very good brand of car & it can be fixed, no matter how old it is.
44. BUT THAT'S TYPICAL OF YOU AMERICANS, THINGS COME SO EASY & YOU'RE SO DAMN WASTEFUL & SO SPOILED! America just throws away things rather than fix them! I've seen lots of Americans who threw things away just because they didn't want to bother to fix'm! They just bought a new one because things came so easy, money came so easy. Cars in the States are so cheap, they throw them away by the millions!--Cars that Europeans would work on & fix & keep running for years.
45. WELL, YOU'RE NOT IN THE U.S.A. ANY MORE, YOU'RE IN EUROPE WHERE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE & HARD TO COME BY, EVEN HARD TO GET FIXED! And if you think I'm going to throw away the money we sank into buying that car just because you don't like it & you don't want to bother with it & bother to get it fixed, you're mistaken! God's giving you another test, & I think it's coming through that car to test your stewardship & your determination to see things through & to cause you to appreciate things instead of looking a gift horse in the mouth!
46. I MUST SAY, YOUR FIRST NOTE ON THAT CAR RATHER SHOCKED ME WHEN I TOLD YOU I WAS GIVING IT TO YOU! I was amazed at how little you appreciated it & how you complained & murmured about it & criticised it & didn't like it, that you would rather have something else. Well, apparently God isn't going to give you anything else, at least right now, until you make that one good. You're stuck with it! It's in your name & you're not even going to be able to throw it away or junk it without some difficulty! And I want to tell you right now, if you do, you are through with us!
47. YOU BROKE IT, YOU'RE GOING TO FIX IT OR GET IT FIXED, or we just can't use you here if you're that wasteful, that destructive, that hard to advise & that hard to warn! The boys WARNED you not to start it that way, but you went right ahead in your smart-alecky, know-it-all way! You knew better & you went ahead anyhow, so you ruined it, you wrecked it, you broke it! But that's typical of Americans!
48. THE U.S. WOULD RATHER DESTROY THE WORLD THAN TRY TO FIX IT! They're so wasteful that rather than drive their cars less & use less oil & be economical & saving & unselfish & more considerate of the rest of the World, they would rather go to war & DESTROY the World!--Rather than try to fix it or repair it, especially if it is going to cost them anything!
49. WELL, IT'S GOING TO COST YOU SOMETHING, SON, TO SAVE THAT CAR! We're not going to waste it or the money we put in it. You are going to fix that car if you have to get yourself a diesel manual & work on it yourself! You are going to fix it or you are going to pay to get it fixed yourself with your money!
50. WE HAVE NEVER ALLOWED ANYONE TO COME INTO THE FAMILY & KEEP THEIR OWN MONEY. You know the rules, you are always to put your money in a common pot, into God's Family's hand, & then you're taken care of from there. But we felt that since you had raised it & you'd need it to get yourself vehicles & whatnot, we'd let you keep it. But if you're going to be that poor a steward of God's money, we can't trust you with it any more.
51. SO I'M ASKING PETER TO COLLECT YOUR FUNDS & FROM NOW ON HE'LL TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER EXPENSES YOU NEED OUT OF THAT. Money has come too easy for you, Son, cars have come too easy! Apparently everything's come too easy for the Americans & now they're going to have to learn the hard way, just like you're going to learn the hard way.
52. WE WOULD EVEN BE WILLING TO LET YOU USE THE TIME TO FIX IT YOURSELF, to park it there beside your trailer & take it apart & see if you can find out what's wrong with it. Get yourself a diesel book. You're supposed to be such a superduper mechanic from all you had to say in your letters & reports, you ought to be able to figure it out & fix it. I've taken cars apart when I didn't know anything about them & figured them out for myself, with a manual in one hand & a wrench in the other!
53. SO EITHER YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO WORK ON THE CAR & WORK ON IT & FIX IT YOURSELF, OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT TOWED SOMEPLACE WHERE THEY CAN FIX IT, & PAY FOR IT. I'm sure it's not going to cost as much as the car cost, & we're not about to begin to throw away that money & have nothing to show for it! It's better to put a little into it & repair it, at least to where it will run & to where we could sell it or trade it in on something else, than just talk about junking it! You are dealing with a different kind of people now than Rachel & the Chain & her old wasteful extravagant crowd! We don't do things that way here! We even save sheets of toilet paper!
54. NO MORE WASTEFULNESS! If you're not saving enough & trustworthy enough, a good steward of God's material blessings & thankful enough, grateful enough & not murmuring & complaining & bellyaching about it, then you don't deserve it!
55. WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE WASTEFUL & SUGGEST THAT WE JUST JUNK AN EXPENSIVE CAR BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BOTHER TO FIX IT OR PAY FOR IT! That car has a lot of good features. It still even looks good! It may be bad, but at least it was running before YOU got ahold of it! Now I want you to get it running again. And I suggest that if you can't fix it or don't want to fix it yourself, that you take it to a mechanic who can--& you stand right there & watch him while they fix it! You may not know anything about it right now, but take a free course--or maybe it's going to be an EXPENSIVE course--in diesel engines & stand there & watch'm fix it & see how they do it & LEARN something!
56. THAT'S HOW I LEARNED MY MECHANICS, I JUST WATCHED THE MECHANICS WORK ON MY CAR. I seldom ever talked to them or asked them questions, because I knew they didn't like to be bothered, so I just watched. I don't know anything about diesels, either, but if I had to learn, I WOULD! I learned about gasoline engines when I didn't know anything about them, & I learned, first of all, just by hard experience. I didn't have a repair manual, I just did it! I watched & I learned & then I did it myself.
57. THAT'S YOUR NEXT TEST, TO SEE HOW OBEDIENT YOU'RE GOING TO BE & see how willing you are to take instructions & orders! Because we're an Army & I'm the General here, & right or wrong, you do it the Army way, no matter what you think about it. I'm sorry, but that's the way it's got to be, & may God help you understand & learn why! That's why the Family's gotten as far as it has, Son, because I'm a tough Commander & I expect things to be done the way I believe God wants them done! So give your funds to Peter & he'll take care of things then.
58. WHEN YOU GIVE EVERYTHING TO GOD, THEN HE TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING FOR YOU! But as long as you've got anything that you're holding back, He's going to let YOU take care of it. Amen?--That's the Family rules! Right? Praise God! God bless you all! o
59. I LOVE YOU, GOD LOVES YOU, WE LOVE YOU & WE HOPE YOU MAKE IT! Now Family, gather round & lay hands on them & really pray that God'll deliver them both & give them the victory! PTL! God bless you all & I hope you make it, because we need you. PTL! TYJ! Hallelujah! Lord, do help these dear children to make it, in Jesus' name we ask for Thy Glory, & for their own sake, Lord, as well. Amen.
Copyright (c) 1998 by The Family
Copyright (c) 1998 by The Family
